So I understand you can use a smart plug and then name it within Sense for tracking a device while it its plugged in the smart plug. My confusion is with removing the smart plug later. I have seen people mention using them in a roaming/training kind of way, like moving the smart plug from device to …

Welcome @dping28 , No, a Sense-supported smart plug will not train Sense how to “learn” and “detect” a device. You’ll need to deploy a dedicated smart plug long-term for each plug-in devices that Sense AI hasn’t yet “learned” and “detected” and that you want to monitor. Using a smart plug as a Roam…

Thank you for clearing that up for me. I have only had sense setup for like a week so I am not planning on doing any smart plugs right away but wanted to find out more on that roaming bit. We do have a rather large always on section so may be useful to do that to figure out what some of it is. Thank…

At 1 week in, you’re at a pretty good place to do an assessment of all of the 120V plug-in devices in your house with a Roamer smart-plug. The Roamer won’t just help with Always On. You’ll also get a pretty good idea of where some of your other large variable loads live. And if Sense doesn’t learn…

I actually have a box of 4 of what looks like Kasa HS103 smart plugs. May need to see if those will work and play with them. :slight_smile: They look almost exactly like the ones you posted.

A lot of the Kasa smart plugs look alike, you are correct about that. However, not all the models have the same stuff inside the shell. HS103 smart plugs do not have energy monitoring capability, so can’t be integrated with Sense. There are only five smart plug models which integrate with Sense. Yo…

As Jeff points out, one has to be very careful when buying smart plugs to work with Sense. They must be energy monitoring models. TP-Link offers as bunch that all look the same but some are energy monitoring, but the cheaper ones are typically not. Kasa plugs cannot be the M (Matter) versions of …

Ah! Thank you both for the heads up on that! I’ve had those 4 for a while sitting in a box. They came with a Kasa KP303 power strip I got a while back. Was hoping I might finally have a use for them oh well :wink: I will check out those KP125/EP25’s and see if I cant get a couple for playing. May ev…

A few quick answers. [image] dping28: Kevin you mentioned using a single plug for a power strip. So in Sense I am guessing that shows as a single bubble? Yes - Sense will show all the usage of a single smart plug outlet as a single bubble, so your computer/monitor/external hard drives on the…

Yeah I can see now how it may be better having items clustered like that verse a million little bubbles for each device. Thanks for the cluster pic! Visuals always help me! Definitely got my mind going now, have tons of areas to test and think where clustering might work out. :slight_smile: Thank yo…

[image] kevin1: There also isn’t much benefit in deploying smart plugs to all the devices you use as a group (home theater, or PC + monitor + peripherals) There’s one potential benefit for certain devices, though it has nothing to do with the Sense. I have an OLED TV, internet switch, TiVo, R…

Good point @joeciarcia - if you have additional automation requirements, you might choose to deploy a smartplug or commit an entire HS300, beyond the measurement benefits. I did the same - I put a doorbell with a Ring camera on a Traveler Kasa EP25, but eventually kept it on the doorbell, because it…

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