Sense is ripe for small-geographic evangelists to deploy for customers and then go deep on the data …
Welcome to the discussions.
Sense is ripe for small-geographic evangelists to deploy for customers and then go deep on the data …
Welcome to the discussions.
I’ve had my Sense installed for just over two weeks. I figured it’s about time I write something here. Three devices have been identified so far: refrigerator after three days, and refrigerator light and microwave after 12 days.
I’m a low energy use case. Going back 11 years my largest gas/electric bill has been $49.05, the lowest -26.63. In California we get credits in April and October and the negative bill was a credit month. This is for a 1246 sq. ft. townhouse. I used to have a roommate, but haven’t in over 10 years, so I get to do things my way! I have NEVER turned on my heater and do not have A/C. I have a dishwasher that I also have never turned on since I purchased the place in 2004.
I’d say I’m an excellent cost cutter, and I have no problems living below my means. So, Sense appealed to me because I’ve had some concerns with my refrigerator. Since Sense has been installed I have REALLY got to see how much the fridge uses. It turns on about 35 minutes out of every hour, using 154 watts and is about 35% of my total bill. It appears that the frequency it turns on is typical, but I may be able to find something more efficient.
As a cost cutter/vampire, I don’t usually turn on lights frequently. My kitchen recessed lights turn on automatically when my motion sensor picks me up around 4 am. They are only on less than 5 minutes. My bathroom globe vanity lights are also used about the same amount daily. Other than that I like it cold and dark in my place! I’m on TOU and I do not do ANYTHING during that time. From 4pm to 9pm no TV, cooking or electronics going other than maybe a tablet. I do all of my clothes washing only during “Super off-peak” times (normally start a load about 3:45am and am able to dry before leaving for work.)
I’m not optimistic about many more detections in my place, but I am hoping for the garage door opener, gas water heater (unlikely), my computer. I know LED lights are difficult and most of my lighting is, so those are unlikely too. I’m guessing it will detect the light bulb inside the range too.
Some other IOT devices I have are: HDHomeRun, MyQ Garage door, Bond controlling three ceiling fans, Nest thermostat and smoke alarm, one Google home, two Insignia smart speakers, chromecast, Bloomsky weather station, a couple of receptacles, and a SmartThings hub with door contacts, a leak sensor by my water heater, and a motion sensor which picks up most of the living area and finally a Schlage door lock.
My always on stays around 68 watts, so I haven’t changed anything there. I can live with that. If I could get solar I would. One of my friends recently did and his overage was more than my total usage. 145 kWh over; my usage 133kWh. When it gets easy and common for condo/townhome owners to do so, I will.
You may wonder, why do I have to watch my expenses so much and do everything so tight? It’s mostly because I’m a single income residence. The other thing is I have much of my income taken away from me before I can get to it! I currently have 31% taken out for 401K. Because of that I have very little for other expenses as I can barely cover my fixed expenses!
I better wrap up this intro to me because TOU is upon me…
@Kevin_K, your savings are admirable. Hopefully Sense can help you eek out even more. You may enjoy these two blog articles; smart plugs sound like a great fit for your home.
Hey people new sense solar installed today… Looking forward to playing with it.
Jim from st Louis
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Patrick, Quebec City.
Been using Sense for almost 6 months now.
Happy to know that my utility is not ripping me off.
Happy to know when my heaters are kicking hard.
Sad to know that the “comparison” of consumption is unreasonable since where we live is one of the worst North America winter places and we heat with electricity, so it makes me feel bad, when it shouldn’t.
Sad to see that the device detection is really bad.
I’ve reset the device once, and both times it was “empty”, it only detected devices the first weeks, then silence… Like it simply doesn’t want to put effort in detecting after some time.
And, for real, there are high consuming devices at home that are frequently turned on and off daily.
Anyway, it’s a good device, it has potential, but from my readings on this community, I’ve seen some disappointment that concerns me.
We do have ‘compare’ functionality within the app, that will make comparisons with those in your immediate locale. However, if they aren’t a lot of other Sense users around you, there won’t be a population to compare with. More on that feature here: https://blog.sense.com/home-compare/
Device detection absolutely varies across homes. It is not universally ‘bad’ however, and the experiences of many attest to this. If you’ve had nothing detected after the first few weeks, that sounds pretty abnormal and I’d encourage you to reach out to the Support team.
Please, let’s try and avoid this thread becoming another rehashing of device detection issues. This is a thread for new users to introduce themselves. As always, Support is the best channel to try and get those issues solved.
Hello, everyone. I’m Mike from Ames, Iowa.
I installed my Sense unit in March 2017 (I saw it on a Facebook ad - that might be the only time a Facebook ad actually showed me something relevant to me). My initial response was “Huh, that’s cool. Whatever, a Facebook ad.” Then I kept thinking about it, and I tried to remember what it was called, and only managed to stumble on it again a few days later.
I bought my house in 2015, and I knew that all of the incandescent bulbs were awful, but I would just replace them with LEDs when they burned out. After a couple months of Sense, I saw just how awful they were. Sure, I could have spent 5 seconds adding up the wattage on these bulbs, but it was almost like a badge of shame seeing those huge “Light” bubbles in Sense that made me switch out working incandescents for LEDs.
After about 10 months with Sense, I contacted a local solar panel installer to get solar put on my roof (I wanted solar anyway, but actually quantifying energy use and knowing that Sense would gather the solar production alongside electrical consumption pushed me the extra step I needed). Thankfully I didn’t have to convince my wife too much. I just had to remind her of those images of polar bears on the melting ice. Solar panels went online in May 2018. In the last 19 months, I’ve generated nearly 10MWh.
I’m in software development, and, much to the chagrin of my wife, I like tech. I’m trying to reign it in, but I did just pick up a couple Kasa HS300 power strips so I could start to piece apart my Always On (identify and, where possible, eliminate) which currently sits around 125W. We have several Amazon Echo devices and Nest Protects that (I think) contribute a fair amount to the Always On. I was surprised to find out my desktop computer (which I use about once a week to play games with friends) consumes 5W all the time (that is, when OFF, not sleeping). The HS300 helped me knock that one out (and since it can be controlled remotely, it’s no big deal - I just turn it on with my phone before turning on the computer).
As for barbecue, (please don’t kick me off of here for this) to me, the meat is mostly (I said mostly, not completely!) a vehicle for delivering sauce to my mouth.
Sense is mostly (I said mostly, not completely!) a vehicle for delivering candy to my eyes?
Don’t quote me on that; note that it’s a question!
Welcome to the joys of electrical maximalism in pursuit of electrical minimalism. I think.
qrnef… My desktop gets used a lot. I have a power strip with everything needed to power it, plugged into it. When I am done I turn it off. Have it in a place that is very convenient to turn on and off. Still working on solar, mentally… Hi hi my 2 cents…Gerry
I am a new sense member as of today. My motivation is that I am into saving electricity in order to come closer to match my solar system output as it degrades so that I have a zero trueup at year’s end. I am an energy consultant focusing on solar PV solar energy. I also have a Buoy water monitor to enable me to remotely shut off my water when traveling due to degrading piping in my house(had three leaks so far). I do not post on Reddit or Twitter. Pulled pork and brisket are my favorite barbecue. I had trouble finding alicensed electrician to install my sense and would recommend to anyone in the East Bay Massis Zadoor at 925-216-8894.
Names Cody. Live in greater Lansing Area of Michigan! New to sense. It’s been running a day now! Little background on me. I work in the skilled trades. I am a licensed fire alarm contractor with a degree in Alternative Energy. I was formerly obsessed with energy usage until my wife moved in and I just gave up.
Saw sense in this old house and thought about it for a long time. Well my energy provider continues to take more and more of my money. I’m determined to see where the hell its going!
First 24! I already see a distinguished pattern or my mini split heat pump. And my oven and stove have a very distinctive usage pattern. I went in and filled out my make and models of all major appliances. I don’t know if this speeds up recognition or not. But I’m patiently waiting for signal check to be complete!!
Ronald from Liverpool NY. Sense with solar was on sale so I purchased one. Installed it the next day when it arrived on Friday. So far it found 3 devices. Looks like the aquarium heaters are easy picking for the monitor. Waiting for the snow to melt off my solar panels so I can make them a part of the sense monitor. I work as a Systems Admin for the county and like to figure stuff out, I consider myself an early adapter of technology.
I am on my second go round, letting Sense discover what is going on. After installing solar on Sept. 1st I reset the Sense device to figure out my new electrical setup.
I am not that upset that I had to start over, I might not have made all the changes if I hadn’t seen my electrical in such detail the first time around. It is nice to see my power use every second, I set my old iPhone up running the app in our living room. Would be nice if they added the graphs to the watch and not just use it to show alerts.
Yesterday was the 8th of December, so more than three months since the reset and it found 3 new devices, likely they are heaters as it is getting cold and we were not running much in the way of heat in Sept. Now I am up to 16 devices discovered.
Hi! I’m Ramón. I’m a software developer. I’ve been using Sense for a little over a week now and am really diggin’ it.
I’m looking to reduce my energy costs and have installed a bunch of Lutron occupancy sensors and a StreamLabs Water Monitor. I’m slowly adding more smart home tech when practical. I just added a TP-Link HS300 for my computer and monitors and will probably be picking up some Currant plugs if Sense gets integrated with them.
Not the biggest fan of barbecue, but I do love me a good grilled burger
Good morning. I’m Bob in Wilmington, NC. I installed my Sense twice already. Our Heat Pump breaker is wired into a breaker box outside below our meter. I think I’m monitoring all my power use now. It appears so. I know a lot of my devices when they come online but Sense hasn’t found too many yet. Maybe in the future sense programmers could allow you to identify devices as they show up on your usage graph.
Your first question is a very common one and is answered at length in many posts. Start here, if you haven’t read this already:
The Sense learning curve is as long as the Sense learning curve. If you get my drift.
Hi Pete Here from Streamwood, IL. Just installed Sense, so it is still learning, but watching the Meter while laundry is done is pretty nice. I like the candy for the eyes comment. The main reason I got sense was I also recently just got solar and saw alot of forums talking about making sure you get your discretionary power load right. I am currently doing net metering which means the solar is going into our Advanced meter and contributing to the Smart Grid when not being consumed by the house. That may seem to nullify the Solar sensors I bought; still waiting to hear from support on that one.
I am looking forward to seeing what we can find. I rue the day when my spouse asks to see the reports once we have things discovered.
Nothing wrong with some redundancy! But I think you’ll find the Sense Solar will give you added features, especially in the longer term, because of the high sample rate.
Admit it: You’re really looking forward to an in-depth conversation with your spouse about all those watts!