Always On for your whole house and for your devices on smart plugs are statistical numbers that are computed from a 24-48 hours history on a moving basis. More explanation here, but the gist is that Sense picks a number that is near lowest, though not the exactly lowest, power number over the past 24-48 hours. Unless your house is really weird, that calculation catches the moment in your house that is the quietest from an on/off usage basis.
Sense will calculation Always On values for any device(s) you have on a Sense-compatible smart plug and automatically add that to the itemized Always On list. So if both your LG and Denon are on smart plugs, you don’t need to add to the itemized list.
The plug will report it’s own (anything connected to it) always on automatically. So you do not want to manually list what’s connected to a plug to your always on list. The plug (and everything behind it) will show as whatever you named the plug under known always on devices.
Ok, so Always On is calculated by looking at the house at it’s lowest but stablest consum:ption, if I understand it correctly.
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I’ve now got 3 devices on smart plugs (compatible with Sense). Only my Denon receiver has automatically shown up in AO. My living room TV and Garage Freezer have not, both of which I thought would be always on.
I think I’ve manually added all the others. Any thoughts on way the other 2 didn’t show?
How long have you been using the plugs? Sometimes it can take some time. Usually about 48hrs.
I have two tv’s on Kasa plugs. Our 62" smart TV uses about 16w when it’s off. The other TV a much smaller dumb TV doesn’t show anything when it’s off as the only thing really being powered is the IR receiver.
We most often turn the TV’s off using the plugs (through Alexa), the 16w doesn’t show as always on, as when we turn it off using the plug it’s 0 watts. If we left the plug on all the time it would eventually (48hrs or so) show as 16w always on.
I have a freezer on a Smart plug as well. The thermostat acts as a relay, when it’s off it’s off. No real electronics.
Our kitchen fridge only has 2w of always on but has more electronic controls.
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I’m with @obscuredtrip on this one. If you have waited for 24-48 hours, then these two devices on smart plugs don’t have meaningful Always On components (close to 0). At some point in time I determined that if Sense sees a smartplug using less than 1/2 W, it labels the device as OFF.
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OK, when I look at the device events, Sense tells me both Garage Freezer and LG OLED TV go into standby and then in the same minute go to off. Am I correct that this means both are NOT Always On devices and are thus not added to the AO list?
Your devices list will also show the current measured wattage. If it ever shows zero, there is no “always on” power. The energy meter should also show this same data, just as a trend.
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What is the largest appliance these EP25 plugs can handle? It’s working fine with the garage freezer, so I figure it can handle my frig. Even though Sense has identified a frig, there’s some unidentified motors and maybe they belong to the frig?,
The EP25 is rated for 15amp.
120v x 15amp = 1800watts.
Your fridge will be fine.
If your uncertain about anything else check the rating plate/sticker on the device. Pretty much anything electrical is required to list the amperage somewhere on the device.
I’ve used KP115 & KP125 also rated at 15a on everything from fridges, washing Machine, space heaters, dehumidifiers, portable AC.
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So I’ve taken the next step along this path and bought/installed a pair of DCM clamps. I’m planning to move them from circuit to circuit to try and identify my remaining Always On load. I’ve got about 100 watts I still need to track down.
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