Any Bets on What's Coming?

Noticed this yesterday on Sense Instagram, while looking at something else…

Basically I don’t care.
If they have the resources to introduce something new without fixing existing features that are known to be flawed, it is all a marketing ploy again.

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The ability for Sense (utilities) to remotely control smart plugs during times of high demand, peak demand, brownouts based on device type. Or something else related to us orange box users being a beta for utility monitors?

Releasing an Orange version of the Green Ethernet/Zigbee box?

Something related to detection? I (factory) reset my monitor 1 week ago (when our smart meter was installed) and have yet to have a single detection. My last 4 resets had multiple detections within 2days.

Network listening to identify devices, confirm state changes, on/off, sleep/wake. cycles. Eventually the AI being able to form models to use in identifying. Additionally using Smart Plug data to correlate with native detection to reduce erroneous detections.

Mac addresses to to gather device identifiable information. MAC identifies as a LG TV, lots of packets being sent = TV must be on, no or few packets = TV must be off. AI correlates this with energy data, makes the connection and creates device called LG TV.

If it is related to device detection, I’m wondering if what I mentioned is a completely revamped reversion of “Progressive Device Detection” which may explain why it’s release has been delayed by over 4 years.

Hope it’s something that will benefit us and not just this.

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Just learned that Wiser had a 240v single circuit load center that was compatible / integratable with Sense that could be used for HVAC, Pools, etc… But it was discontinued within a few months of it’s release. Probably plagued with the same issues we all experienced with their smart plugs/switches.
Appears it was an integrated breaker/relay. Unlike the separate Wiser relays that go in a breaker box wired in after the breaker that have been around a while now.

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Hmmm,
Nothing yet, though they have done a website refresh which typically accompanies new news… The new website does highlight the emerging presence of Sense-enabled meters, but that’s not directly news - as you have pointed to, there have been numerous previous news releases covering these new additions from multiple meter makers and utilities.

The associated Q&A does explain things better.

Who knows when we’ll see the real news - I guess “next week” ends on Saturday ?

Well that’s anti-climatic… The marketing team has been working on a major revamp of the website. Much needed, hard work and helpful in explaining the new positioning of the products, including lots on the new meters.

But only limited new utility for current users. A little easier to seek out support and find tickets on the Support page, plus a more consistent organization for the main support questions and answers.

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I noticed reduce energy “earn rewards”. Any idea what this reward program is all about?

I think that’s the OhmConnect. I can’t use it because I already belong to a similar program that connects my Ecobees to PG&E, my utility.

Probably, OhmConnect is only available in a very small section of (downstate) NY.
NYSEG does have a program offering small bill credits to turn up/down your thermostat by a couple degrees, my ION system thermostat has that feature, however NYSEG won’t accept it into their program and expects me to downgrade.
On that note they finally upgraded us to a ‘smart’ meter (ahead of their schedule), though none of it’s features will be available for a few more months and we are still stuck with poorly estimated bills in the meantime.

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BTW:
I have been using ohmconnect for a while.
Over July there were 10 power saving events here in southern Cali and I got paid $117 for the savings I realized.

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It’s going to be interesting to see how demand response and energy management evolves. My biggest complaint from my utility, PG&E (beyond their prices) plus the associated tools to manage is that there are lots of choices and everything is decentralized and fragmented.

  • I can do demand response via either OhmConnect or the Ecobee program but not both. The Ecobees work fairly well - they take advantage of time-of-use rate windows to pre-chill the house when the weather gets hot (they will cool well below the AC set point just prior to 3PM (the end of off-peak) to get a running start, then maintain the lower point until 4PM (the end of partial-off-peak), so that I’m using cheaper and less carbon-intensive energy until 9PM. But between those two mechanisms, I don’t really get a specific savings number.
  • We also have two forecasting mechanisms, one via a utility web app and one via a free third party. The third party, Dr. Power/HEA, also gives obvious pointers on how to improve based a rigorous and painful home inventory.
  • The utility also has a good mechanism to evaluate the best rate plan for lowest cost based on the past years usage patterns, though it doesn’t give users the tools to use that data to do a “what if ?”.
  • PG&E is finally adding “To Grid”, “From Grid” and cost to their “Little Green Button” data at 15 minute resolution. That enables better user analysis, especially for the newer NEM 3 solar rate plans, where just the ‘net usage’ no longer cuts it. Wish Sense would add same for the hourly export.
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