I have a baseboard circuit of 2 000 W and a toaster-oven of the same wattage. Sense assign those two devices to the same device.
What could be done to tell AI that those two devices are independant devices and not the same one?
I have try to “Report a problem / Device not On” for one of the two device, but both devices are cycling on-off frequently which is combersom to report that the device is not on each few minutes!
Any clue?
I have a large burner on my electric cooktop that is very similar to my electric oven, thus Sense confuses them at times. In my case I don’t care, since you do you might be able to get Sense to differentiate between them by placing one device on a different “leg” in your 240V panel. This may require moving a breaker and it’s likely that the toaster-over circuit would be the easiest target.
Looking forward to other’s ideas on this. :))
Hey @NorthMan.
I was going to suggest a smart plug for the toaster but realized the wattage is a little bit over the max threshold for both the KP115 and HS300 (both are around 1875W max.)
Option #1 If you don’t have solar or another feature utilizing the existing middle-port on your monitor, you can use Dedicated Circuit Monitoring for the Baseboard Heaters (if they’re attached to a dedicated circuit in your breaker panel).
Option #2 is to delete the device - if it’s no longer accurate, you can “try again” and wait for detection on either.
Option #3 If you haven’t already reached out to Support about this, I might suggest doing so. In some scenarios, Support can make adjustments to detected devices/models. At the very least, it’s worth doing this before deleting the device entirely and getting their feedback on next steps based on what they see happening in the backround.
I just checked our big toaster, which runs 875 watts, and a toaster oven that runs 1275 watts (both measured on Kill-a-Watt). I can’t even imagine a home toaster that runs more than 1875 watts (that’s more than a 15 amp household circuit breaker is rated for!). So I’m very skeptical about a toaster drawing more than a KP115 can safely handle.
1875W for a toaster sounded a bit high to me as well, but was hard to verify since I don’t have one.
Thanks for adding insight here.
@JustinAtSense and @andy you were right by being septical about my toaster-oven maximum wattage. It is labelled as 1 200 W maximum (giving 10 A).
Strangely enough, Sense is measuring about 2 000 W for this same toaster-oven depending on the displayed tab?!
I turned on successively my baseboard following by my toaster-oven for few second each. Following picture shows Sense’s App Power Meter. We see that the height of the second device (toaster-oven) fits with 1 200 W if the first device (baseboard) is at 2 000 W.
When we look at “Devices” Tab in Sense’s App, we get the following information.
The next picture shows when baseboard is on (nominal 2 000 W).
The next picture shows when toaster-oven is on (nominal 1 200 W).
“Devices” tab always shows my device labelled “Heat 2000W” at 2 161 W, no matter if the baseboard or the toaster-oven is on ! The same happens with Now tab.
The most strange behaviour of Sense’s App is that when my toaster-oven is on, not only Sense shows an impossible and wrong wattage, but it also removed the “Other” device.
@JustinAtSense, you suggested 3 options. #1 can not be used as my Flex Sensors are already dedicated to two other devices. #2 and #3 refer to Support. I guess I should open a ticket for them to review what is happening with “Now” and “Device” tabs in addition to my problem of having two different devices assigned to a single discovered device.
This is probably the best place to start for this issue. It’s hard to say for certain, but it looks like there is some device conflation going on here.
