Device Compatibility-Kasa HS-100 or HS105

[Zimbrich]

I am new to Sense. I have seen the blog post on Kasa HS110 and HS-300 being compatible with Sense.
The HS-110 is not available on Amazon but the HS-105 and HS100 are both available.

• Are either of these compatible with Sense?
• Is there a comprehensive list somewhere with all currently compatible devices?

Thanks in advance.

[kevin1]

HS-105 and HS100 don’t have the ability to do power monitoring - just on/off. The HS110 has been discontinued, I think mainly because Maxim stopped manufacturing the power monitoring chip they use inside. I recommend the HS110 over the Wemo. Some people have found HS110s recently on NewEgg.com

https://help.sense.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012089393-What-smart-plugs-are-compatible-with-Sense-

[andy]

Incorrect, the HS110 and HS300 DO energy monitoring, which is why thousands of these have been purchased by Sense users that are frustrated by Sense’s detection limitations. What seems to be correct is that TP-Link has End of Life’d the HS110, although you can still find some in various places. The HS100 (and the HS105), still available, does not do monitoring, only control, which causes confusion due to similar part numbers.

The Kasa HS300 also does power monitoring per outlet (six of them) and apparently is still being made (no clue why, because same technology inside).

I’m not sure what the relationship between KASA and TP-Link actually are, some re-sellers use the names interchangeably and the TP-Link web site features a KASA logo. A Google search for answers was pretty confusing.

[ben]

I think @kevin1 made a typo and said HS110 where he meant to say HS100, which is what the OP was asking about.

As for Kasa and TP Link.

TP Link is the parent company.
Kasa is the product line / family for TP Link’s home automation system.
Just like Belkin makes the Wemo family of Smart Plugs

[kevin1]

Thanks guys… My phone autocorrected from HS100 to HS110
Fixed

[Zimbrich]

Thanks for the info, all. That makes sense that the other devices do not have monitoring built in.
I ordered an HS300 yesterday from Amazon. It should be here later today. I will post an update on the success (or lack there of) of the HS300 in helping to identify any additional devices.

Thanks for the quick responses!

[Zimbrich]

So, I received my HS300 Power Strip and it works great so far. I tested it out in my kitchen and was able to add my toaster oven as a device.

So I don’t know if I should just continue on this thread or start a new one. My question is: If I use the HS300 to identify a device and then remove the device from the HS300 and plug it back directly into the wall, will my Sense unit still recognize it “stand alone”? The device has the TPLink Name, TPLink ID and plug number included in the settings of this device. My hope was that I could use the HS300 to speed up the process of identifying devices, but not leave the device plugged into the HS300 permanently. Am I going about this all wrong?

[kevin1]

The HS300 doesn’t directly train Sense how to detect the toaster. Eventually Sense can use the toaster data to build better detection models, but that’s a long term proposition. The two ways to use the supported smart plugs

1. dedicated monitoring - put and leave on devices that Sense is unlikely to find. I use an HS300 in my networking and server cabinet to monitor the 6 devices in there.
2. as a traveler - to look at the usage patterns of all the different devices around the house. I use my traveler HS110 to watch the patterns of devices like TVs etc for a couple days, looking to see standby (always on) power usage plus the peaks.

[andy]

I’ve seen no evidence that Sense can transition devices from HS to Sense.

Sense should have been able to detect a Toaster Oven on its own, but of my 167 devices it’s only found about a dozen (and those not reliably), so who knows.