Not sure WHY it works. I just experimented with clamp placement in different locations. That one did the trick, picking up ALL house usage, whether from battery or solar. The one thing that remains untested is grid power, since I haven’t pulled from the grid in a while. If grid power breaks this, I’ll update.
That looks just like my install. I’ve had it for 2 weeks now. The CTs for “solar” are on the lines that come from the “generation panel” that Tesla install that has my solar and Powerwalls combined. So Sense sees the net of battery and solar. Unfortunately they currently don’t graph negative power. This is not a major issue unless you get a lot of “Storm Watch” events. During those times the batteries will charge from the grid. During other others time they are charging from solar so solar just gets time shifted.
Since all my loads are coming from one panel I have the “mains” CT on the panel. This seems to be working just fine.
You should contact support and let them know your configuration. That was essential for me because I couldn’t finish the solar setup. Here is a picture of the Power Meter showing the Poweralls discharging and the Sense showing it as solar production:
Just had a new solar, PW2 system installed and I am researching this very topic on how to incorporate Sense into the mix. Your write up here makes perfect sense. I am wondering though do you have the the Version 1 gateway or the newer Gateway Version 2?
When you describe connecting the grid CT’s to the top of the board I am guessing you might have the Version 1?
On my Gateway 2, I think the grid incoming is on the bottom right. Just trying to determine the correct location for my grid CT’s.
I am unable to access the Gateway right now for a picture. However I have access to a gateway picture I can markup to show where I put the Sense Solar CT’s.
As far as the readings, the way I have it set up, solar will show total of generation and output from the powerwalls as a total solar value. I have 2 PW. Usage will show total household usage. This works well for me.
I’ll try to get you a picture later.
I also have 2 PW, and your way would totally work for me.
However, what I was wanting to do with Sense was account for home usage minus the PW and for solar generation only. But again, your way works too.
What’s seriously weird for me is that the “usage” count is accounting for usage plus solar generation. It would make more sense if it was accounting for home usage plus/minus the powerwalls depending on if they were charging or generating. Does that make sense?
In the photo, the top breaker is the incoming solar and the bottom breaker is the PW feed. So my CT’s are picking up any output; Solar or PW.
Where do you have the usage CT’s? For me, I have a whole house backup so I placed my Sense usage CT’s at the incoming lines to the main breaker. Also pay close attention to polarity as I original had a set backwards and it was giving me strange values.
Also attaching my Sense numbers from yesterday. I run a Raspberry Pi setup polling the Gateway also and it has been in line with these values for me. Remember though that with my placement of the solar CT’s, Sense sees the PW’s feeding at night as solar generation.( Ignore the dollar values.)
Hope that helps.
Ah, so I won’t be much help with your configuration in this case. CT’s on just the solar incoming might give you what you want. I won’t be able to help determine that in your case, but you might already know. Or maybe someone else here with a setup similar to yours might chime in.
I’m waiting on a response from Sense support on this, see if they have any onsight. And, of course, if they do, I’ll make sure to have it posted here.
I also called my powerwall installer, and he’s going to try and come by at the end of the day.
Whatever we come up with, I’ll make sure to share it as well.
Again man, thank you very much. All your effort did lead me to finally figuring out what the issue actually is.
Looks like you are set to go with the same kind of configuration most Sense Solar users have. I’m guessing you’ll some weirdness when your battery starts delivering energy when viewing the Power Meter.
I was leaning to agree with your thoughts man, honestly. More than anything I was thinking that my usage was going to drop to 0 while on battery. But as unexpected as this is, I’m very happy this is the case, because this is why I wanted the sense.
Switching gears, I want to extend my gratitude to all of you, that tried to help me figure this out. Thank you all very much.
Hopefully all the struggle will help more individuals with similar setups.