Z-Wave Data Source


#1

I have Network Identification enabled because of COURSE I want to give Sense as many clues as possible to detect things in my home.

I have a large number of Z-Wave switches and outlets in my house, some of which are controlling large loads (like a home exhaust fan). It seems to me that if Sense was able to listen in on the on/off signals sent on Z-Wave network, it might be able to associate those with load increases/decreases.

If Sense sold a Z-Wave add-on—that sat on the Z-Wave network and bridged information over Ethernet or Wi-Fi to the Sense monitor—I would pay money (up to $50) to improve Sense’s identification of loads.


#2

Good thinking :wink:

We’re definitely working on some similar integrations with other networked devices that can get us that sort of ground truth data.


#3

I would absolutely hop on an integration to my current z-wave network (which is run/managed by HomeSeer). I don’t care about integrating with Homekit or Google Home even though they are probably more market friendly from a PR view.


#4

Boy that’s a niche idea, but an interesting one.

I suspect that almost everyone who’d use this zwave doohickey is running some kind of expandable home automation system - home-assistant.io in my case. Instead of custom hardware, what if we could just publish home automation events at the sense? A unicast UDP packet with the zwave node id & on or off would probably be useful.

This wouldn’t be helpful for aggregate machine learning like whatever network traffic is coming from a tesla charger, but it’d be a very strong signal for just my house. For instance, my dehumidifier gets switched on when all the windows are shut, and sense fails to identify its first cycle (from powered off to on) and does fine afterward (from idle to on).


#5

If Sense could talk to Home Assistant (or other hub/controller), there’s all sorts of info that could help Sense tag/name devices. It wouldn’t need to be Z-wave capable (or Zigbee or MQTT or RF or…), just compatible with the hub. I’d be glad to work with folks on this.


#6

Count me in on wanting this.


#7

Same here with SmartThings as my automation hub. My understanding is that SmartThings API is fairly accessible. I can see the current watts used on all kinds of zwave/zigbee devices in my home. I get that Sense is getting data at a much faster rate but is sure seems like this would be incredibly helpful for learning already named devices and have a starting point for learning when those devices are on or off with a pretty good idea of the current wattage. A great way to add to the machine learning knowledge base.


#8

I have lots of SmartThings things too that I’d love to see integrated in Sense.


#9

I have the following SmartThings devices that return a wattage number. I can view them in the ActionTiles PC Web display or on my SmartThings phone APP. I would prefer that this data be integrated into the SENSE data so that I have a whole house view of my wattage in one APP.

SmartThings devices that I have installed in my home that monitor wattage:

  1. Iris Smart Plug:
    https://www.lowes.com/pd/Iris-120-Volt-White-Smart-Plug/999925330
  2. Centralite Series 3 – Model 3200 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CKKVX30/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  3. Enerwave ZWN-333M-PLUS Smart Plug https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WVRVBRM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  4. Enerwave ZW15RM-PLUS Smart Outlet https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WVRXX2Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  5. Zooz Z-Wave Plus Smart Plug ZEN06
    https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/collections/zooz/products/zooz-z-wave-plus-smart-plug-zen06

A display of my ActionTiles (linked to the SmartThings Hub) with wattage information is shown below. Please consider pulling wattage data from these devices (through the SmartThings Hub) into the SENSE APP. Thanks.

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#10

I too am a SmartThings user with some devices that collect power usage data. I have a feeling this is a little too niche of a scenario for the Sense team to devote resources to, but I’ll add my datapoint nevertheless.


#11

Samsung SmartThings is a pretty big platform. I have 50+ devices running on it. Most of them Light Bulbs actually as it supports Sengled light bulbs which happen to be pretty good lightbulbs for a good price (8 pack for $49.95). All of these have Wattage information, so could very well be used by Sense.