New WiFi SmartThings Plug

Please please please integrate this new Samsung SmartThings plug!

It finally runs WiFi so here’s hoping it works on your end. I currently have Kasa HS110 plugs but this promises to be a heck of a lot better. For starters, it does everything the Kasa energy monitoring plug does for half the cost. The Kasa plug also takes up a whole outlet even though it only supports one device (ie once you plug a Kasa outlet into a wall outlet there’s not enough space on a single-gang outlet to even plug in another dumb device). Kasa can be made to work with SmartThings but one would assume this device works natively and hence a bit better. Thanks and good luck!

David

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I don’t see energy monitoring listed as a feature. Am I missing it? That would be a hard stop for Sense integration.

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Totally agree. Samsung buried this little blurb under “Automate an entire room” which is why I’m thinking/hoping it’s there:

“Use multiple SmartThings Wifi Smart Plugs to work together. Monitor energy usage and set routines to power off when you’re away.”

FWIW there old plug (“SmartThings Outlet 2018”) has the feature but it’s not listed on their site as a feature there either. My devices won’t show up for another week but here’s hoping it does indeed allow you to ‘monitor energy usage’! I’ll report back once I know for sure.

David

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These SmartPlugs showed up today and they definitely perform energy monitoring. As expected they also allow you to fit two plugs in a single-gang outlet (see pictures relative a TP Link HS1110).

FYI: setup was a bit messy as they don’t support the legacy SmartThings app that most of us likely use (SmartThings Classic). But I had good luck installing the new app, setting them up, and then using them as normal in the SmartThings Classic app. But still far easier than using a separate app, installing code, etc. just to get a similar result. Note that (see pictures) power monitoring seems to work on the new app but not the Classic one. But these should hopefully work great for Sense’s purpose!

Cheers,

David

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Cool - do they also have an open API to access power data ? The discussion of old vs. new app raises questions ?

I’ll let smarter people than me comment on Samsung’s API (if any) as that’s above my pay grade/intellect.

The old/new app probably isn’t a big deal. Samsung has been trying to get people to use its new app for a while but it’s a real chore if you’re already using the old app - last I heard doing so required you to pretty much rebuild your entire home from scratch. And if you’ve got hundreds of devices like many of us do (myself included) this is a royal PITA. About a year ago (ish) Samsung renamed Samsung Smart Home to SmartThings and then renamed SmartThings as SmartThings Classic. It’s all needlessly confusing and complicated but nothing that should hopefully worry Sense.

Thanks!

Thanks for sharing. Obviously, not going to make any promises here, but we will take a look.

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Any updates on this? I’m holding out on buying any new smart plugs hoping that these will get integrated with Sense. They hit a real sweet spot on price, looks, form factor, and (hopefully useful for Sense) power monitoring.

You had me at “half the cost”. All I really want from these smart plugs is that they work with sense. I don’t particularly care about the native app for them. I’d love if sense had there own but until then I’ll stick with whatever is cheapest. It just needs to control on/off monitor power and integrate with sense. Not blocking the second outlet or having multiple receptacles are bonus territory. I can normally get the Kasa plugs for $20-25 each looking for sales. If these can be had at $10-15 and they work I’ll have these bad boys on just about every outlet in the house.

We’ve been deep in the weeds with a lot of other projects, but I just grabbed a couple of these to take a closer look and see what’s available via their API. Success would depend on what they can provide there and at what resolution. Even if they can work, it wouldn’t be an instant add (it takes a considerable amount of resources to add integrations that work alongside a device detection framework), but future integration is possible.

For those concerned about cost, B&H has TP-Link HS110’s for ~$12/each right now as a temporary deal.

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Fingers crossed, especially with the fact TP-Link is sunsetting the HS110’s without any replacement on the horizon. And I’m no fan of the Wemo hardware anymore, not to mention the Insight is silly expensive.

Unfortunately B&H has apparently sold out of the HS110’s. Their web site now shows the item as “discontinued”. I was too slow.

I’ve gone all in on the smartthings plugs… .hoping this comes to be!

There still seem to be a fair number of HS110’s in the sales channels… Amazon still selling. Better a sure thing for someone who needs vs. hoping an praying for future support.

Agreed. I assume pretty much anyone who cares about about their usage enough to get Sense has long since moved to LEDs and/or dimmer switches and presumably this is the easiest way to move the needle to get more of people’s usage tracked in Sense and out of the Unknown or Always On categories. And I’ve got a ton of those HS110s but the form factor really was prohibitive and severely limited where I could put them.

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About halfway down.

Automate an entire room

> Use multiple SmartThings Wifi Smart Plugs to work together. Monitor energy usage and set routines to power off when you’re away

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Please get new smart plug support. I can’t find 110s or insights anymore. I ordered a 2 pack of 110s on Ebay and the person sent a cell phone holder. Not happy!

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Don’t know if you are in the US or elsewhere, but Amazon US has in stock… Better than getting a cellphone holder.

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I saw those. They are not I stock until 22nd and have pushed the date a few times already. I was waiting on them and purchased a 300 first. A power strip is too bulky for areas I want.

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Check the amazon link often. I’ve seen it change to show some in stock throughout the day and was able to purchase a couple kits.